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Pneumoconiosis (version2)

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 10:31 am
by Macavity
gone to publ land

Re: Pneumoconiosis

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 11:04 am
by David
Welsh miners, yes? Although the Welshness of the dresser, and of Portmeirion (The Prisoner evoked?), seems like a bit of a distraction.

Despite that, however - only a minor point, in any case - I think it works very well.

Not sure about "gleams" in that context.
Macavity wrote:The beaked thief has torn the ribbons
of sleep.
A bit over-poetical, those ribbons of sleep? Maybe not.
Macavity wrote:Not long, knowing that rasp,
but still that itch to scratch.
Is this your Grandad?

Very good last verse!

Cheers

David

Re: Pneumoconiosis

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 6:34 pm
by Antcliff
Yeh, nice last verse. Big use of title. Like that. :D

Do you need this, Mac?
all of
Seth

Re: Pneumoconiosis (version2)

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 9:56 pm
by Macavity
Thanks David and Seth. Elements of fact and fiction as always. Made some tweaks in light of your comments.

all the best

mac

Re: Pneumoconiosis (version2)

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 11:27 am
by Jackie
Hi Mac,

I enjoyed this, especially the bone-white stone and the dust in the display window; such common images of real dryness.

Sorry, is the beaked thief an expression I don't know? And I'm not sure about using his in the 3rd stanza to refer to the Grandad (I assume) when we don't name him until the last stanza. Also, since N has a blistering thirst, I wonder if you'd find a way to emphasize the moistness of the cake, rather than its being chocolate.

As I said, much enjoyed.

Jackie

Re: Pneumoconiosis (version2)

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 11:53 am
by ray miller
The revised version is better, I think. My only suggestion would be that pecked might be preferable to torn, gives a greater impression of suffering over a longer period of time.

Re: Pneumoconiosis (version2)

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 2:21 pm
by Macavity
Thanks Jackie and Ray. Appreciate the feedback. I've axed the second bird, replaced with some local detail.

all the best

mac

Re: Pneumoconiosis (version2)

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:12 pm
by Jackie
Love this new revision, Mac. The word slab is perfect.

It's so easy to google the Markham mine. What did the beaked thief refer to? I'm familiar with black lung disease.

Jackie

Re: Pneumoconiosis (version2)

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:23 pm
by keith
I like the revised version very much - the imagery works really well with the mood and...
Grandad, whiskered, mouthing air
as if a fish with pulsing gills.
... is quite powerful and rather beautiful.

Re: Pneumoconiosis (version2)

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 5:28 pm
by David
Yes, nice revision, Mac.

Re: Pneumoconiosis (version2)

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 5:47 pm
by Antcliff
Markham + Wels refs? Grandparents (or somebody) moved?

Like the revision.

Is there a play on the word "mine" Mac? I see it appears twice.

Seth

Re: Pneumoconiosis (version2)

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 8:15 pm
by Macavity
Thanks Jackie, Seth and David for taking another look at this and Keith for the thumbs up on the revision.
What did the beaked thief refer to?
Just an image I've used in a couple of poems for destructive influences.
Is there a play on the word "mine" Mac?
Yes Seth, just some threading.

The mine:
http://www.welshcoalmines.co.uk/Gwent/Markham.htm

all the best

mac

Re: Pneumoconiosis (version2)

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 8:19 pm
by Antcliff
Near as a kid...hence my confusion..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markham_Main_Colliery

Re: Pneumoconiosis (version2)

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:09 pm
by bodkin
I only looked at the new revision but I found it pleasantly spare and quite moving.

No particular nits.

Ian

Re: Pneumoconiosis (version2)

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:18 pm
by Macavity
Cheers Ian.

all the best

mac

Re: Pneumoconiosis (version2)

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 5:44 pm
by KevJ
Like version 2 better I think Mac. There is something quite moving about the image of "Grandad mouthing air". Powerful stuff.

Re: Pneumoconiosis (version2)

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:23 pm
by Macavity
Thanks for the thumbs up Kev

all the best

mac