Oneiromachia

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Oneiromachia


He soon wrote The Book of Shadows. In his dream,
some things were obvious, some things were not.
How could he even begin the task of explaining
what was obscure, or worse, the contrary of what’s real?
How could he even begin the Oneiromachia?

The whole edifice was completely silent.
Beyond its confines: stars and planets. He had said
already things worth doing are worth doing well,
and now it seemed he was paying the price. The angels
watched, they were not there to interfere.

The cleaning staff walked in as they made love.
Curtains billowed. There was not a lot
more to be said, and much of that in Greek.
The dream kept coming back. It was painfully early.
Nobody would have guessed the end had already come.




https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... ia/658382/
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Wed Oct 04, 2023 4:23 am

Like the title John, new one for my vocabulary. The poems jumps around, but some great nuggets in the seams: not much said in Greek was a smile. Have those observational angels made an appearance elsewhere in your poems? Are they evidence gathers?That significance/impulse to explain what is not real 🤔 A poem to get one thinking. The link was good too.

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Wed Oct 04, 2023 4:59 am

Hi Phil,

I guess I got the title from the Conrad Aiken - it means dream battle or dream war. Hence, some of the jumping around. It's good to hear you found nuggets in the seams, and I'm glad you enjoyed the Greek bit! It was Greek to me. The observatoinal angels are a tad different from my usual more interfering angels who wrestle with people (as with Jacob), or ascending and descending angels (as with Jacob's Ladder). They are perhaps closer to these guys:



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John
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Wed Oct 04, 2023 5:39 am

Great film



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Wed Oct 04, 2023 6:06 am

It is a great film, isn't it?

THanks for the links - that opening ruined church is the Kaiser-WIlhelm Gedaechtniskirche, which the Berliners left ruined after WW II. First time i stayed in Berlin, in 1990, ourl andlady was married in that church to a guy who died on the Russian Front. Weird times.

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Wed Oct 04, 2023 7:53 pm

Greetings, John!

Members of the Coo-mmunity confess, we hadn't heard of the Oneiromachia before. However, I'd heard of the Oneirocritica, having copyedited a book about them for Ashgate, with W.-B's help. Perhaps this is something similar?

We clicked on the link, but the website requires us to sign in or create an account. It is all very intriguing! We like the watching angels (^v^)

Cheerie,
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Thu Oct 05, 2023 7:59 am

Greetings, FLiss and Coo!

Yup, oneiros in Greek is dream, so the Oneirocritica were a good book topic. I'm glad you liked the watching angels - you can watch them in Phil's link to the Black Mountain video, which is straight from the same film, Wings of Desire. Or just Google the opening sequence, it's lovely and was lifted wholesale by Hollywood for City of Angels, with Meg Ryan and Nicholas Cage.

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Thu Oct 05, 2023 8:23 am

Greetings, John!

Ooh yes, we'd made that Greek language connection. It's another busy day in the office today, but we'll try to find time for the links later (^v^)

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Thu Oct 05, 2023 11:03 am

I do like to fit in a little Greek when I have the chance!

The film opening is very nice. Angels, we learn, see in black and white, so the film opens that way.

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