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Plato on thugs

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:00 pm
by Lovely
Long lost epigonion more grateful is this world.
You harp half-angel descended into darkness.
Heads turn into disgust for me being a bubble,
attacking me for their troubles; blamed for their ignorance,
a scapegoat is their convenience.


One, two, three, four, one, two, three, four,
stand up straight you bloody bubble,
why shoud you fly when I cannot?
Nothing but blackness for black
you silent bloody bubble.

I don't hear your lyre of modes
no sevenings to appear what cosmic-consciousness already knows.
The changes of modes when death implodes to end it,
the devil wants an onion (won't play) an epigonion.


Nothing to hear but the lyre so more distant Divine Soul,
others not care they don't hear, materialism is their goal,
they have no expediance for stratosphere of soul
thugs--- they do not care for the whole---so where is their goal?


Thickly diced these bastards they'll knife you for the cast,
no cosmic love these past unseeing creeps of disgust,
their laser-eyes in dust. But of course they always know better than us.

Hear the sound of the epigonion---- lift the tone of the dust.

Re: Plato on thugs

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 7:15 pm
by Jasper
While your use of that inverted forty stringed instrument here is bloody clever to epitomise Plato's Uncle and his forty thieves, I can't seem to decode whether you're attacking or defending Plato's murderous introduction of Democracy over Athenian existentialism.

Then again it's early morning and me brain needs coffee... lots of coffee!

Will be back for sure as I've a very keen hate for Plato and his BS!

J

Re: Plato on thugs

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:01 am
by Cryptic Cadence
Jasper wrote:While your use of that inverted forty stringed instrument here is bloody clever to epitomise Plato's Uncle and his forty thieves, I can't seem to decode whether you're attacking or defending Plato's murderous introduction of Democracy over Athenian existentialism.

Then again it's early morning and me brain needs coffee... lots of coffee!

Will be back for sure as I've a very keen hate for Plato and his BS!

J
:x

Re: Plato on thugs

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:43 am
by Ros
Well, it's a wonderfully esoteric thing to get excited about! Always quite liked his theory of forms, myself...

Ros

Re: Plato on thugs

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:01 pm
by David
Long lost epigonion more grateful is this world - that's an oddly lovely line. (I must say I find your nom de plume a pain, L - you've appropriated one of my favourite words.) Had to google epigonion, of course.

Nice to see a bit of controversy being generated by someone who lived nearly 2,500 years ago.

Cheers

David

Re: Plato on thugs

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:58 pm
by TDF
Interesting one this lovely,

I found myself far more drawn to this piece than some others of yours tbh. There is some room in there for the reader to have some opinon and thought.

Also you have some good half rhymes and wordplay, so the reading itself is interesting and fun. Although I did find a few bits unnecessarily verbose and I think you should tighten up your punctuation and grammar a bit.

But this was a good read, thanks.

What are/is 'sevenings' btw?

TDF

Re: Plato on thugs

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 11:52 pm
by Jasper
Theory of forms? He stole that from Aristotle's Sullogism (ABCDEF) while he slaughter his Students of Geometry if they dared discovery/speak of the problemata of the square root of 2 in an equasion, for goodness sake! Then, Wittgenstein stole Aristotle's ABC for his famous Critical Reasoning essay...*slaps his forehead*

Now another more modern tyrant had a sign above his death camp's gate too btw!


J

PS: Controversy from a write is the best compliment to an author/ess IMHO.... IE: Germane Greer!

Re: Plato on thugs

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 6:39 pm
by Lovely
A thanks for your remarks:-

Jasper--glad you had an opinion on this.

TDF--- Sevenings here, mean more than one vibration, "beyond" earthly five senses which we mistake for actuality which it is not I feel --or
maybe anyway---- without sounding to arrogant about this. Thanks.

David--- Thanks for looking it up glad you found it amusing maybe. It's a bit different anyway.

Ros---- Plato was a great thinker (and still is), he was educated in the (Greek mysteries), they (stole it )from the Egptians. It's about vibration
really, hope that helps you a bit----raise the (tone) of the dust, my last words on it.

Cadence---I was protecting Plato, here. Though I can see your educated point in this too, and with good cause. Nice one.

Thanks for now,

DJL