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Wed Nov 14, 2018 11:03 am

Oil on canvas 60 x 50 cms. Reminds me SO much of low tide at South Shields Beach.
Ponds and Beach 13 11 2018 (2) 001 (resized 800 pix) POL.jpg
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Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:22 pm

People JJ! I like it. Great sky. What palette are you using for the sand?

Not keen on the title

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Thu Nov 15, 2018 5:18 am

Hi JJ

Always good to see your work. One thought and it also applies to the previous work you posted, if I was looking at this scene, the waves and people would be sharper. I wonder if it is your camera? That it is less sharply focused than eyesight. i do, or did before getting cataracts, have very good long distance vision so it may just be me.

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Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:16 pm

Thank you once again, mac and Ross, for dropping in to have a gander. Appreciated, as always.

Mac, the palette for the sand is yellow ochre, cad yellow, alizarin crimson, a touch of burnt umber and titanium white. I added the darker colours with white, for the sand in the sea, to prevent the sand from turning green.

In answer to your question, Ross, I'm not sure. The painting is really quite large at 60 x 50 cms so the details are more apparent in real life. Further to that I seem to be getting a lot of noise on the photos, and the light is poor to boot. I rely on autofocus on my iphone 5 for the pics, so that could well be the source of all my problems. It's a distant image so some blurring would be normal but not too much.

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With regards to the title, mac, I was getting at the tide reclaiming the sand after the locals and tourists had snuck onto the flats to play and walk. I do need a better title. I originally called it "Walking the Tide". I won't be offended if you can come up with something special. :)

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Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:48 pm

Hi again JJ
My expereince is that all cameras distort the image since they can only focus the lens on one distance whereas we when we survey a scene focus on various parts of the scene separately and form a composite image. I am very wary of painting from photos that have distance in them. Corot is good example of this. There is one painting of his that I could compare to a modern colour photo of the same scene which had not changed. His painting had more clarity and detail than the photo.

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Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:19 pm

That's more than interesting, Ross, and something I can follow. I actually tend to go for tighter detail with my pastel paintings, for some reason. Thanks for getting back to me, and I'll take a look at Corot again in a minute.

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Do you have the name of the painting because he tends to use both techniques. IE realism and pre-impressionism. He was a true master, wasn't he.

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Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:47 am

Hopefully not too silly a question JJ, but wouldn't the people be walking more on the sand than paddling the water?

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Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:48 am

The Island and Bridge of San Bartolomeo (1825) to see a photo google Tiber island,Rome. Wiki has several colour photos, it hasnt changed except a large tree has grown up.
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Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:39 am

They tend to enjoy both, mac. When the tide is low, a film of water often reflects the sky, giving it a much deeper look. There's also something attractive about walking on the wet, almost flooded sand.
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Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:47 am
Hopefully not too silly a question JJ, but wouldn't the people be walking more on the sand than paddling the water?

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mac
Thanks, Ross. I'm on it.
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Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:48 am
The Island and Bridge of San Bartolomeo (1825) to see a photo google Tiber island,Rome. Wiki has several colour photos, it hasnt changed except a large tree has grown up.
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Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:15 am

Sorry JJ, another question, just wondered how you're using the alizarin crimson?
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Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:12 am

Macavity wrote:
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Sorry JJ, another question, just wondered how you're using the alizarin crimson?
No prob's mac

If you add red to a sandy colour it drops the tone, providing you don't add too much. It also works well when mixed with the yellows before adding it to the very wet sand. It gives the impression of dark yellow without changing the blues to green. You have to be quick, though, with no constant blending.

Most wet sands have a red tinge in there somewhere. The photo of this painting isn't really showing the hints of sand peeping through the water, especially close to the people.

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Sat Nov 17, 2018 12:51 am

The photo of this painting isn't really showing the hints of sand peeping through the water, especially close to the people.
That would explain it!
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Sat Nov 17, 2018 11:17 am

I'll try for a better photo, mac.

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