Now the rainbow
dips to the distant crofthouse,
colours hovering over the roof,
not touching, but blessing,
like the hand of a Pope here
from his splendid palace,
and gone by the time I,
like some scribe of his retinue,
scribbling in description,
finish this sentence of praise.
All too briefly
I wondered about breaking line 5 after Pope; it would seem to leave the hand hovering a little more and perhaps picks up on the blessing of the previous line a bit more. It also seems to concentrate the 'here' from his splendid palace.
(Or not...just a thought.)
In any event a nice sketch oof evanescence.
Ken
(Or not...just a thought.)
In any event a nice sketch oof evanescence.
Ken
Perhaps that's the intention Ken - bringing the focus on here as opposed to there to reinforce the sense of distance. Distances - real, creative, those enforced by time, - was for me a central theme of the poem. The poem reminded me of themes in Keats' Ode On A Grecian Urn. The emphatic opening Now, a marker that the moment will pass and so will its beauty. I thought the sense of movement was captured in the bird analogy - though hovering I associate with birds of prey.It also seems to concentrate the 'here' from his splendid palace.
The use of the word blessing leads naturally into the similes. For me the similes again suggest a certain amount of distance from the actuality. This is a blessing from the sky/nature/God and the Pope is 'trapped' in the 'splendour' of a man made creation that cannot compare to the crofthouse in this light - that's how I saw it anyway. The poet by placing himself in the Pope's retinue is ironically 'belittling' his position - the poet is a mere scribe scribbling a description and can never trully capture the moment in words. Lovely use of scribbling in that context and very much like the placing of time/I. The title nicely fits into the expression - the sentence - and the passing moment. The use of comma allowed me to pace my reading of the poem with the appropriate pauses.Now the rainbow
dips to the distant crofthouse,..........................like the dips/distant, croft/colours, house/hovering, rain/roof sound plays - not intrusive, seamless
colours hovering over the roof,.........................like sense of eye movement from rainbow/house/roof
not touching, but blessing,................................I like how this reflects a different kind of distance
all the best
mac
I do like this one Seth - the distant croft house gives a strong sense of place and the Pope from his Palace hints at the ostentatious and is a strong contrast to the humble croft which is of course made "godly" by the natural wonder of the rainbow and not by the man made religion ..... ooh have I gone all Pseud's Corner!
One line stands out (as in not quite in keeping)
cheers
elph
One line stands out (as in not quite in keeping)
Why is that, I think it gets in the way of "dips" and "not touching but blessing". I think those lines would be stronger running together. Also hovering for me introduces a sense of movement whereas a rainbow appears static. Not sure I am explaining very well, buts its the only line I hesitated on.Antcliff wrote:colours hovering over the roof
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elph
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Very nice, Seth. I like not touching, but blessing.
scribbling in description, - maybe you could introduce a sense of haste, or does scribbling do that? Maybe.
like the hand of a Pope here - I don't much like here stuck on the end either. The here...and gone would be accentuated if it started the next line. Perhaps.
scribbling in description, - maybe you could introduce a sense of haste, or does scribbling do that? Maybe.
like the hand of a Pope here - I don't much like here stuck on the end either. The here...and gone would be accentuated if it started the next line. Perhaps.
I'm out of faith and in my cups
I contemplate such bitter stuff.
I contemplate such bitter stuff.
Hi Seth,
Great to read you again.
Loved this.
I wondered if you need 'distant' in line two? It gives a whimsical tone that the poem (gladly) doesn't carry through.
I would also drop the comma after palace - the line break does the job.
Perhaps an alternative to 'scribbling' - to me it clashes with 'scribe' and 'description'. Perhaps 'scrambling'?
Luke
Great to read you again.
Loved this.
I wondered if you need 'distant' in line two? It gives a whimsical tone that the poem (gladly) doesn't carry through.
I would also drop the comma after palace - the line break does the job.
Perhaps an alternative to 'scribbling' - to me it clashes with 'scribe' and 'description'. Perhaps 'scrambling'?
Luke
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Thanks very much, Ken
Thanks very much, Luke
Thanks Ray
Thanks Elph
Thank very much, Mac, for these very extensive and helpful comments.
I suppose I was isolating "here" to make for an emphasising contrast...here!! Still, it does seem to be a distraction for Ken and Ray, maybe more loss than gain. Pondering, still. And the comma...which was indeed there to pace. I do like "scribbling" but I think either it or "scribe" has to go. Maybe "scribe" might be better replaced. Hmm.
Thanks all, as ever
Seth
Yes, I went back n forth over that before I posted. May have gone the wrong way.I wondered about breaking line 5 after Pope
Thanks very much, Luke
Hmm. Not sure.I wondered if you need 'distant' in line two? It gives a whimsical tone that the poem (gladly) doesn't carry through.
Yeh, tempting idea.I would also drop the comma after palace - the line break does the job.
Yeh, good idea too. I don't need a repeat and "scrambling" is a nice fit.Perhaps an alternative to 'scribbling' - to me it clashes with 'scribe' and 'description'. Perhaps 'scrambling'?
Thanks Ray
Yeh, may go with Luke's "scrambling" or maybe "scrabbling".scribbling in description, - maybe you could introduce a sense of haste, or does scribbling do that? Maybe.
Yeh, you and Ken may well be right. Pondering.like the hand of a Pope here - I don't much like here stuck on the end either. The here...and gone would be accentuated if it started the next line. Perhaps.
Thanks Elph
You did. Spot on. It has to go. may go for "holding" or "hanging".Not sure I am explaining very well
Thank very much, Mac, for these very extensive and helpful comments.
Perhaps that's the intention Ken - bringing the focus on here as opposed to there to reinforce the sense of distance. Distances - real, creative, those enforced by time, - was for me a central theme of the poem.
I suppose I was isolating "here" to make for an emphasising contrast...here!! Still, it does seem to be a distraction for Ken and Ray, maybe more loss than gain. Pondering, still. And the comma...which was indeed there to pace. I do like "scribbling" but I think either it or "scribe" has to go. Maybe "scribe" might be better replaced. Hmm.
Thanks all, as ever
Seth
We fray into the future, rarely wrought
Save in the tapestries of afterthought.
Richard Wilbur
Save in the tapestries of afterthought.
Richard Wilbur
Yes, I was struck by both the placing of "here" and the "scribe / scribbling" issue. So, very 'umbly, I propose this:
Now the rainbow
dips to the distant crofthouse,
colours hovering over the roof,
not touching, but blessing,
like the hand of a Pope
here,
from his splendid palace,
and gone by the time I,
like some scribe of his retinue,
finish this sentence of praise.
No? Thought not. Nevertheless ...
David
Now the rainbow
dips to the distant crofthouse,
colours hovering over the roof,
not touching, but blessing,
like the hand of a Pope
here,
from his splendid palace,
and gone by the time I,
like some scribe of his retinue,
finish this sentence of praise.
No? Thought not. Nevertheless ...
David
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Tempting idea, David. Thanks.
I have havered over the placement of "here", on the line, at the start of the next. This may be better.
Seth
I have havered over the placement of "here", on the line, at the start of the next. This may be better.
It might be "yes".No?
Seth
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Save in the tapestries of afterthought.
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Save in the tapestries of afterthought.
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Think I'd prefer
like the hand of a Pope,
here from his splendid palace,
like the hand of a Pope,
here from his splendid palace,
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