this probably needs some work..

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Fri Jan 13, 2006 5:34 am

She told me about her grandfather's hands-
Old, inept, blue veined and twisted.
Then frowned, looking at her fingers.

The photo in her living room captured him-
And his son, immobile behind the glass,
Bald, and his son, slightly.

Stains on her white carpet,
Where a heavy chair once rested,
That perhaps held him as he died.

You can see, deep in her worry-lines-
That she sees herself, gray and frail,
Like him, in the heavy chair.
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Fri Jan 13, 2006 5:35 am

What's the title?
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Fri Jan 13, 2006 5:37 am

none, at the moment
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Fri Jan 13, 2006 5:38 am

why?
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Fri Jan 13, 2006 5:42 am

No problem.

I like it just fine, this is a good poem. I have no major criticisms - maybe look at punctuation and caps. An edited version might look like this:

She told me about her grandfather's hands -
old, inept, blue-veined and twisted -
then frowned, looking at her fingers.

The photo in her living room captured him
and his son, immobile behind the glass,
bald, and his son, slightly.

Stains on her white carpet,
where a heavy chair once rested
that perhaps held him as he died.

You can see, deep in her worry-lines
that she sees herself, gray and frail,
like him, in the heavy chair.

But that's easy to fix. The hard work is behind you - making it straightforward, perceptive, easy to follow, nicely paced and imaged. Good work!

- Caleb
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Fri Jan 13, 2006 5:46 am

thanx, got an idea for a title?
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Fri Jan 13, 2006 5:59 am

uhhh that's a little harder. I'll think on it.

What inspired it? (These are just aside questions, I am interested.)
"Don't treat your common sense like an umbrella. When you come into a room to philosophize, don't leave it outside, but bring it in with you." Wittgenstein
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Fri Jan 13, 2006 10:34 am

the third stanza seems vague, in the first line "him" being grandad (and his son in the second line), is his grandson in third line? I say this because of the comma suggesting something like it.


Sorry, not the third I meant the second.

I think it's best if the author fixes it.
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Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:49 pm

I like it think it read and flowed well.

Title who knows?.How about Times Scars....

Good piece Yesterday..

Tom...
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Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:57 pm

TG?
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Sun Jan 15, 2006 6:10 am

the third line I have know idea how to fix, maybe you could help a little, but it supposed to be his son, not grandson

What inspired it, well... when I was about ten the old lady next door died, since I had no grand parents she was pretty much a substitute. I remember her favorite chair beside the fire, her worn arthritic hands, the photo's of her sons and long-dead husband. But since her death I’ve always thought about how you see people's body's age and how they worry about turning out looking like their parents in old age. I suppose that’s what inspired it, I never really though about that, I just wrote.

'times scars', its a good idea, but not really what I’m looking for, its a soft poem, and ... perhaps I’ll call it 'velvet wrinkles'... I don't know, what do you think?

cameron, what are you on about with 'TG?' ????
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Sun Jan 15, 2006 9:11 am

Thomas's post originally read: "good post TG". He has since edited it.
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Sun Jan 15, 2006 11:20 am

ohok, thanx
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Sat Jan 21, 2006 9:52 am

Nice one.
Favourite image: "deep in her worry-lines"

Can I make one suggestion?

I stumbled over this line:
"That perHAPS HELD him as he DIED"

how about
"Perhaps it held him as he died" Or "that might have held him...."

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Sat Jan 21, 2006 10:11 am

oh yes, of course, can't forget about meter...
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