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Before and after you (again)

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 4:49 pm
by Sulpicia
When did my life divide,
creating two periods:
before and after you?

Remember those hours:
bored by your voice,
uncaptivated by looking at you.

Time passed me by; I missed
it all, watching but not
remembering. Time that would now

be hoarded and treasured, seconds
like grains of gold slipping through,
swung heavily on my eyelids.

I look back and am jealous of myself,
not yet stretched, marked, sucked dry:
full of other unrequited loves,

one organist or another, now long gone.
How I wish I could look at you,
as you were then and I am now,

walk across the room and take
your hand and lead us both
to somewhere outside time.

Original

When did my life divide,
constituting two periods:
before and after you?
I can remember all those hours
bored by your voice,
uncaptivated by looking at you.
It passed me by; I missed all that,
watching but not remembering.
Time that would now be precious
hung heavily on my eyelids,
hours of personal contact time,
dreaded, almost resented, in equal measure.
Now I look back and am jealous of myself:
So free, so young, so unaware,
Not yet pierced, marked, worn out,
Full of other unrequited loves,
One organist or another, now long gone.
Now I wish I could look at you
As you were then and I am now
Crossing the years and warning myself:
Run away, run away (and never come back).

Re: Before and after you

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 5:08 pm
by beautifulloser
Hey

Very cool. My only nit would be to say that it's more of a soliloquy than a poem at the moment. Although I'd have to be honest and say I wouldn't know where the fine line is between both as I tend to churn out similar stuff myself and then forget there is a craft to it. What that craft is, is down to each individual, as with anything artistic. No one can limit your freedom to express yourself as you want to.

But interpreting the poem, I'd say it's all good, wholesome and honest stuff. The organist image is a good one, could maybe be developed more in the context of what you want to say, so that what is said is more allegorical than stated. Shown a little more, told a little less. It's inspired, regardless: Love and Theft spring to mind.

Hope that helps.

big love

me
x

Re: Before and after you

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 5:37 pm
by Sulpicia
BL
Thank you - sadly, I quite agree. Free for all on suggestions to actually turn this into a poem!
Helenx

Re: Before and after you

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 5:45 pm
by barrie
Now I wish I could look at you
As you were then and I am now
- Wouldn't it just be an eye-opener - you're not the only one who thinks like that.

I like this a lot more than your last one - so don't knock it.

Couple of things -

Time that would now be precious
hung heavily on my eyelids,
- Isn't time....hung heavily a little overused? what about time.... swung heavily on my eyelids (pendulums and things.)

The other thing is - hours of personal contact time, - Doesn't hours imply time - besides, you've used time already a couple of lines before - times up.

nice one

Barrie

Re: Before and after you

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 9:25 pm
by R. Broath
Helen. I like this and would go with it like this. It changes very little but reads better, I think.
The bold I would excise the () I would add.
Have a look and see what you think. It is a good write and worth a little tinker.

Jimmy

When did my life divide,
constituting two periods:
before and after you?
I can remember all those hours
bored by your voice,
uncaptivated by looking at you.
It passed me by; I missed all that,
watching but not remembering.
Time that would now be precious
hung heavily on my eyelids,
hours of personal contact time,
dreaded, almost resented,(equally) in equal measure.
Now I look back and am jealous of myself:
So free, so young, so unaware,
Not yet pierced, marked, worn out,
Full of other(by) unrequited loves,
One organist or another, now long gone.
Now I wish I could (see you) look at you
As you were then, and (as) I am now
Crossing the years and warning myself:
Run away, run away (and never come back).

Re: Before and after you

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:25 pm
by Sharra
I think this is a really interesting poem, I love the starting point of your life as split into 2 around a man, one of those ideas I wish I'd had. Also, this feels really honest.
I think it does need a fair bit of tweaking to work it into the really good poem the concept has the potential to be.
I've also taken the liberty of pasting into word and playing with it, just for a few ideas.
I've split it up into stanzas, it felt to me that the subject needed space for the reader to feel the gulf of time.


When did my life divide, into two
periods: before and after you?
I remember those hours bored
by your voice, uncaptivated.

It passed me by; I missed all that,
watching but not remembering.

Time that would now be precious
were dreaded hours
hung heavily on my eyelids, (im not keen on hung heavily - feels cliched)


Now I look back and am jealous of myself:
So free, so young, so unaware,
Not yet pierced, marked, worn out,
Full of other unrequited loves, (this line feels a contradiction of previous one, unrequited love=pain surely?)
One organist or another, now long gone.

Now I wish I could look at you (I think this stanza is working ok)
as you were then and I am now (now used twice, maybe remove previous one)
Crossing the years and warning myself:
run away, run away (and never come back).

This is just a quick edit. I think it would be great to extend the time connection if you could into the other stanzas, maybe brainstorm words around time, clocks etc and see if anything arises that would fit the meanings you need. I think this is worth the effort :)
Sharra
xx

Re: Before and after you (again)

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 10:58 pm
by Sulpicia
Hello all!
Thanks for all your comments. I didn't want to post more stuff until I'd had a chance to engage with this one and have a crack at editing it. I've done that and changed it quite a lot. I think it still has a fair few problems, especially rhythmic, and I'd appreciate any further thoughts.
One day I'll go back through and produce an edited version of the whole bloody lot. But that might have to wait until I'm on research leave! :-)
cheers
Helen

Re: Before and after you (again)

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 2:22 am
by pitseleh
hey helen,

was just about to get some sleep when i read this, but youve awoken my senses for now. first off i really like whats there, i agree that it needs some structual tinkering and i dont think the revised version has the answer. although i defo prefer the ending in the revision. really like the way time kept cropping up in the piece, right through to the end where youve had enough. anyway, im fookin knackered but heres what i think:


When did my life divide,
creating two periods:
before

and after you?

Remember those hours:
bored by your voice, uncaptivated

by looking at you.

Time passed me by; I missed it all

watching but not
remembering.

Time that would now
be hoarded and treasured,

seconds

like grains of gold
slipping through,
swung heavily on my eyelids.

I look back
and am jealous of myself,
not yet stretched,
marked,
sucked dry:
full of other unrequited loves.

One organist or another
now long gone,
I wish I could look at you

(as you were then - and I am now)

walking across the room,
and take us both to somewhere

outside time.


the ending catches on me, it just stumbles a little so i made a small change

nice one
harrison