Dirty Faces

New to poetry? Unsure about the quality of your work? Then why not post here to receive some gentle feedback.
Post Reply
Macavity
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 12281
Joined: Tue May 10, 2005 10:29 am

Sat Jul 27, 2013 9:43 pm

revised

All week this dad is driving vans to buy
us jeans. The Black Country lies far beyond
our home. Sunday he reads the paper and falls
asleep. The mum's watching a matinee
she's seen. We play our knock down ginger game.
No one unbolts a door. The bank is muddy
and we christen our jeans. It's the old cane
across our hands. 'Little bastards,' she screams.


=======================================================================================

original

All week the dad is driving vans to buy
us jeans. The Black Country is far beyond
our street. Sunday he reads the paper
and falls asleep. The mum is watching a film
she's seen. We play the knock down ginger game.
No one opens a door. The bank is muddy
and we christen our jeans. It's the old cane
across our hands. 'Little bastards,' she screams.
Last edited by Macavity on Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:58 am, edited 9 times in total.
David Smedley
Prolific Poster
Prolific Poster
Posts: 643
Joined: Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:16 pm

Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:56 pm

Mac wrote:
All week the dad is driving vans to buy
us jeans. The Black Country is far beyond
our street. Sunday he reads the paper
and falls asleep. The mum is watching a film
she's seen. We play the knock down ginger game.
No one opens a door. The bank is muddy
and we christen our jeans. It's the old cane
across our hands. 'Little bastards,' she screams.
Mac, first impressions. The word the before dad, mum, and old cane, jarred for me on reading.
The ginger game may be subject to locality so I did not understand the reference, and therefore the line
no one opens door eluded me has to meaning, is it part of the game.?
seeya.D
Antcliff
Perspicacious Poster
Perspicacious Poster
Posts: 6599
Joined: Thu Nov 24, 2011 1:35 am
Location: At the end of stanza 3

Mon Jul 29, 2013 8:49 pm

Hi Mac,

The mum is watching a film
she's seen.
I wonder if it is a bit over "eee"d at this point....Week/jeans/street/sleep/reads.. and then "she" and then "seen".
Dunno.

Seth
We fray into the future, rarely wrought
Save in the tapestries of afterthought.
Richard Wilbur
Macavity
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 12281
Joined: Tue May 10, 2005 10:29 am

Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:58 pm

The word the before dad, mum, and old cane, jarred for me on reading.
Thanks David. I was attempting to convey these were fostered children and familiar with punishment.

cheers

mac
Macavity
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 12281
Joined: Tue May 10, 2005 10:29 am

Tue Jul 30, 2013 3:02 pm

Antcliff wrote:Hi Mac,

The mum is watching a film
she's seen.
I wonder if it is a bit over "eee"d at this point....Week/jeans/street/sleep/reads.. and then "she" and then "seen".
Dunno.

Seth
Too many additives? I'll see if I can clean out some of these wee 'e's :)

mac
David Smedley
Prolific Poster
Prolific Poster
Posts: 643
Joined: Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:16 pm

Wed Jul 31, 2013 3:06 pm

All week this dad is driving vans to buy
us jeans. The Black Country is far beyond
our home
Hiya Mac it seems like line 2 is part of line 1 and that the van is being driven in the "black country"
(hope that makes sense)
Reading the paper in version 1,came across better for me.

seeya......D
Macavity
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 12281
Joined: Tue May 10, 2005 10:29 am

Wed Jul 31, 2013 6:03 pm

Reading the paper in version 1,came across better for me.
Thanks David. Duly re-instated.

mac
writedis
Posts: 49
Joined: Tue Nov 18, 2008 1:38 am

Fri Aug 02, 2013 12:32 pm

I like this. Puts the reader in a fabric of time where entertainment wasn't based on technology (apart from Mum watching afternoon tv) Dad driving miles for economical reasons, kids being kids and being punished for it. Good old times? I feel like knocking on a door and running away!
User avatar
Dalena
Persistent Poster
Persistent Poster
Posts: 157
Joined: Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:34 pm
antispam: no
Location: Nubia

Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:03 am

A pleasant snapshot of events which were commonplace life situations in the not too distant past, quite possibly heading for a resurgence in light of the current stresses placed upon sections of society, those which are far removed from the bed wetters currently raking it in large style off the backs of ordinary folk through the redistribution of wealth exercise taking place all around us.

Thanks for the read

Dalena
Life is one good lick away from being naughty
Macavity
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 12281
Joined: Tue May 10, 2005 10:29 am

Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:36 am

I feel like knocking on a door and running away!
Now that could be a metaphor! Good old times? - well the petrol was cheaper :) Thanks for stopping by wd and taking time to comment.

all the best

mac
Macavity
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 12281
Joined: Tue May 10, 2005 10:29 am

Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:54 am

raking it in large style off the backs of ordinary folk through the redistribution of wealth exercise
Thanks Dalena. I think they call it re-balancing the economy :) eg devaluing the pound so the wealthy put their money into gold and the poorer spend more money on fuel costs.

cheers

mac
KevJ
Preponderant Poster
Preponderant Poster
Posts: 825
Joined: Fri May 21, 2010 9:54 pm
Location: Birmingham

Sun Aug 04, 2013 11:01 am

Macavity wrote:
raking it in large style off the backs of ordinary folk through the redistribution of wealth exercise
Thanks Dalena. I think they call it re-balancing the economy :) eg devaluing the pound so the wealthy put their money into gold and the poorer spend more money on fuel costs.

cheers

mac
Too true. A nice snap shot Mac. The black Country is only about ten miles up the road from me. :wink:
I am not a number ... I am a FREE man!
Macavity
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 12281
Joined: Tue May 10, 2005 10:29 am

Sun Aug 04, 2013 11:10 am

The black Country is only about ten miles up the road from me.
Thanks Kev. Ten miles? I presumed you were in its concrete heart :)

cheers

mac
KevJ
Preponderant Poster
Preponderant Poster
Posts: 825
Joined: Fri May 21, 2010 9:54 pm
Location: Birmingham

Mon Aug 05, 2013 3:29 pm

Macavity wrote:
The black Country is only about ten miles up the road from me.
Thanks Kev. Ten miles? I presumed you were in its concrete heart :)

cheers

mac
Oh no Mac I'm a Brummie born and bred. The Black Country is a separate area with its own Identity. I know many black country folk who would be very miffed if thought of as Brummies. :D
I am not a number ... I am a FREE man!
Macavity
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 12281
Joined: Tue May 10, 2005 10:29 am

Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:02 pm

The Black Country is a separate area with its own Identity. I know many black country folk who would be very miffed if thought of as Brummies.
:lol: I stand corrected! I didn't realise the 'tribal' area was so specific :)


http://www.bbc.co.uk/blackcountry/uncov ... t_is.shtml

cheers

mac
Arian
Perspicacious Poster
Perspicacious Poster
Posts: 2718
Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:41 am
antispam: no
Location: Hertfordshire, UK

Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:02 pm

David Smedley wrote:The word the before dad, mum, and old cane, jarred for me on reading.
Yes, I confess I found the mix of first person (our home etc) and the objectification of mum and dad (through the use of the definite article) a bit confusing, too.

Apart from that, quite a nicely constructed, and readable, personal (I assume) reflection, though - for me - it lacks that dimension of allegory/philosophy/observation that tends to characterise a really interesting poem.

Cheers
peter
Macavity
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 12281
Joined: Tue May 10, 2005 10:29 am

Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:54 pm

Thanks Peter. 10% fact, 90% empathy.

all the best

mac
Post Reply